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BUT say Mr Right did pop in to your inbox Some girls even respond with answers like "No way he'll have to win me over blah blah blah! I can't take credit for this opener as I grabbed it from this site but modified it a bit. It seems to be one of the better ones I've used so far. Join Date Jul Gender: Some real creativity u got there.
Join Date Mar Gender: The key is finding something on her profile and then making a future projection of the two of you doing it together in a fun way. I too love to party. Do you ever come down to the beach? We should go to New York and tell everyone you are Paris Hilton and get our asses kissed all night. You be Paris and I'll be We'll be followed by paparazzi, and we'll party our faces off. Direct nice guy opener. I'd think I'd really like to get to know you better. It's hard finding a high quality girl sometimes, just as hard as finding a high quality guy i guess.
I really enjoy that feeling that you get sometimes when you get excited about someone, you know, right in the beginning, after you have hung out a few times. Anyway, I believe strongly in balance. I work hard, play hard and relax often. I think you have to try everything It's really the key to health and happiness. Well, I really hope to hear back from you soon.
BUT you look like one of those girls that puts up a hot picture just so you can get 50 compliments a day from creepy horny jerks Well, if you're real Join Date Jun Gender: Only 3 online openers here?? Anyone got any more. I tried the search function "online openers dating" not much comes up. Join Date Aug Gender: Location The Back of Beyond Posts 5, Originally Posted by Changeling.
When I am writing in re d , it's as an Attraction Forums Admin. When I write in normal text, it's just me. Age 32 Posts I cant remember where I got it but "Is that your real hair or a wig? Join Date Sep Gender: I've been playing with a lot of different openers. I also, have revamped my profile with different approaches and different pics. I am pretty happy with my new profile and get a few women opening me every week. I am still not crazy with any particular opener ive stolen on here.
After you spend some time on the phone whatever feels right to you , then invite her out. Maybe even revise the "Personable Guy" line if it feels right to you. I really don't care for hiding behind a computer of phone all day, I like to get out Same rules for dates apply here, but for the first date make sure you're inviting her out to something that can take place on any day of the week and is available throughout the day and perhaps night. A lot of girls do online dating because they have tight schedules, so while they may be impressed by your idea of taking her out to a Comedy Hypnosis dinner show, she will ultimately turn the idea down which leaves you fishing for new ideas on the spot.
Have a few ideas in mind, and use which ever one you like best. Qualify, Weed, Qualify Who to avoid. Profiles with "Myspace Angles". If her only pictures are from top down, half of her side, down up, and a close up of her face, she probably isn't in the best of health.
I have been wrong. Profiles in which the girl looks like a professional model in each and every picture. The profile usually includes a short account of typical interests mixed in with raunchy interests. She probably isn't real. Anyone advertising sex sex sex. They're either an Ad-bot for a adult personals site or they're very, very unattractive.
I mentioned these girls before, remember? A girl doesn't have to be an attention hoe just because she declined your invitation out, but often at times the one's most resilient about meeting in person really aren't looking for anything worthwhile. They will waste your time. When dating online, ask someone out once, and move on. It's very easy to waste time on one person over the internet just to have that person stop responding to you. Don't let this happen.
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Let my invitation method weed these girls out. Sites to Behold OkCupid. Thousands of tests, questions, and qualifying gibberish that shows you how compatable you are with someone else and allows you to really see what someone else is made of. Plus, we know how much girls like pop psychology quizzes. This site is loaded with them. OKCupid is filled with a large variety of counter culture, suicide esque girls.
Or even if they're not that, they still have more personality, intelligence, style, and humor than the girls at most other sites I've come across. I belong to another message board in which many members met their wives and husbands over OkCupid. Personally, I've gotten some good dates out of it and have even made longterm friends.
And no, they weren't from me being placed into the friend's zone. The quality of the women isn't as good as OkCupid's but there's a diamond here and there. Likewise, the choice of men on POF isn't that great either, so a great profile stands out for as long as you have it up there. It takes little effort and time to copy and post your OkCupid profile to another site.
Start one up just in case you catch the eye of someone likeminded. A lot of times feedback comes when you least expect it. It's a really wonderful tool. Sure the personals written by women are terrible, and sure the personals written by men are just as terrible and perhaps even worse. That does NOT mean that very smart, attractive people aren't reading through the personals.
I've had responses from people that only read the personals for a cheap laugh only to message me and tell me what a surprise mine was. Just like with POF, since most of the entrees are lame, yours will stand out! Not only that, but the entire Craigslist audience rolls over completely about once every fifteen days from my estimates. You never run out of readers so long as you post your personal once a week. My Personal, and What Makes it Work http: I love myself plenty. I understand a relationship is supposed to enhance your life, not make or break it.
I'm looking for someone to love. When I think about an ideal relationship, most of my thoughts veer towards what I'd like to provide for the other person. Things I'd cook, restaurants I'd take her out to, theme parks we'd go to, impromptu road trips we'd take, favors I'd like to pay. I really think the desire to provide for someone else is one of the major hallmarks of maturity, and it is one I look for in people I spend time with.http://cohenpipe.com/images/498/420.php
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And so by extension of that I guess I'm No one ever said this dating thing would make sense. Anyways, onward with my description" Women love this. It conveys everything that lets them know I can stand on my own two feet, am not looking for someone to "complete me", am a provider, and will be the one qualifying THEM for a cahnce to spend time with ME.
Sentences seven and eight allow me to outright tell someone to take ME out. I've yet to do this, but I'm interested in trying it out. Because of the way I've phrased those particular lines, I can't imagine it would make me lose standing with anyone. I am in fact, looking to be provided for as well as I provide. If a girl doesn't even have an idea of what she would like to do for me after contacting me, she's obviously not the girl for me.
The bit where I mention my multiple lines of lineage has spurred a lot of responses where people tell me what their heritage is. The lines where I talk about what I LOVE is outright monkyed in many responses as the girls try to align with my personality before we even meet.
I get a lot of responses about "driving down to the keys at the drop of a hat". Something I actually did once with a friend. These are the parts that stand out. Everything else is taken into consideration and appreciated, but not outright mentioned as much. The pictures are a good mix. They show my interest and skill in photography, my adventerous side, and me just standing there looking like me on any given day.
I'd suggest you go for a healthy variety as well. That's all for now. I'll be around for whatever if there's responses. Fri Oct 26, 8: Thu Nov 01, 5: I'm between jobs right now and low on funds so I've been sarging online to make up for it You're right about the profile being an ongoing piece of work, it can always be improved Plus it portrays confidence. Sun Nov 04, 4: I pretty much used your profile you wrote on here except for changing a word or two to fit me better and put it on plentyoffish.
Sun Nov 11, 8: The link to your carigslist profile has expired, do you have a new one to reference? Thu Nov 15, 9: Fri Nov 16, 3: On one of my profiles im testing out being picky Wed Apr 16, It's been over half a year since I've posted this thread and I decided to take a moment to revise and update it. I'm no permanent fixture on this board. It's been months since I've even logged in. I'm a guy who met a adorable redhead with two college degrees online and who has been in a great relationship for five months now filled with homemade cookies, great sex take THAT virginity!
I'm quite satisfied with that. Despite all this, it has been a regret of mine for a while that this compilation of advice and information I've left sitting around has been without certain methods and procedures I've picked up after my initial posting. I've known for a while that this thread is still being read, and I really dislike the idea of guys just like my former self beating their heads against a wall over stuff I've long figured out. The two main additions you'll find is an Order of Online Dating Operations, and a select few private messages I sent out on OKCupid that got responses.
Also, since I'm no longer posting on Craigslist, I've copied and pasted my old CL post onto my PlentyofFish profile so that it can be used an as example. You can view it here: In response to something in her profile You sound like you may be like minded. You enjoy writing stories, reading, and vulgarity.
Do you have the same energy? Would you ever consider putting a live alligator in someone's bathroom for a practical joke? If you were watching a dinner show and the performers were asking for a volunteer would you sink back into your chair or would your thrust your hand up into the air and say "Me! You can so eat a spoonful of cinnamon In response to something in her profile I have done it. I will SHOW you. But perhaps an introduction is in order. My name is Joseph. I'm a free spirited culture junky, and I think we might have a bit in common. The free spirited culture junky thing for starters.
Plus, I'd like to see what you can do with a blank piece of paper and a pencil. Yes I am honest, cute I think you have a very endearing personal. You appear to be very easy going and a total culture junky like me. Plus, you can count on a Naturas girl being pretty hip. But then I wonder Do you enjoy Winter Park's outside screening of classic movies?
Or are these things you've yet to experience? Inquiring minds and all that A Most Dazzling profile It's pretty gosh darn succulent. It's the green tea frappachino with blackberry syrup of OKcupid profiles. Originating from traditional methods and ideas and then warped into something cool, frosty, and refreshing. Like a good book, you can pick up from the middle and it's just as good as starting from the beginning. So, do I ask for your aim screen name or do I follow you down a back alley and be all like "Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?
Wed Apr 16, 2: Online Dating Order of Operations No matter how hard you try to make it into one, dating is and will forever be an art, not a science. There are no universal truths in dating. However, like most arts, there are rules of thumb. Even if there's an exception to these rules, the rules are still pretty damned useful by and large. And that's what The Online Order of Operations is. It's what streamlined my approach to online dating and maximized the number of girls I met on any given week.
It's a ladder of trust you provide for a girl who has never met you and build to fit inside a week, or even a day. Using it, I typically met women within a few hours of them sending me a instant message. Private Message or Two Since many times online encounters go straight to instant messaging this is an optional step and not always in play, but in cases it is prevalent it is very important.
Given the choice, you want to skip this step. But if you can't Spend a message being charming, funny, inquisitive, and generally wonderful. If she responds well to that, ask her if she has an IM screename cause hey, you'd like to get to know her. It's too soon for her to take much initiative, so don't give her yours and expect her to send you a message. Ask for hers and make a move whenever you see her online. I've never been sensitive about messaging too soon or waiting too long.
IM whenever you like; this shouldn't make a difference. Do not ask for her phone number here. Do not use the Personable Guy line here. Ok, I've gotten away with doing this when my connection was down, and I actually ended up meeting my girlfriend Instant Message Conversation This step should last somewhere between one and two hours, either all at once or broken up.
You should be very engaging here, this is the part where you really win her over and prove you're good for conversation! If you've made it past an hour with her and you're not getting any negative vibes from her, it's a good bet that she's into you enough for you to move into the next step. Remember that "Personable Guy" line I was telling you about before? I'm enjoying this conversation, but can we move this over onto the phone? I know I have my profile here online but I'm really a Personable Guy and find it hard to get a sense of who someone is just by reading their writing.
Why don't you call me? I'm not sure about trading my phone number with people over the internet Yeah, I understand, but we're really not going to get to know each other any better by sitting here in front of our monitors. I mean, the chances of me being a pound underwear sniffing sea pirate really don't decrease with extra time spent sending messages. I guess you have a point. You sir, are in like Flynn, as they so often say.
While your anxieties will be running the most high during this part, it is actually the easiest step of them all. If a girl has come this far with you, she'll forgive a little awkwardness on your part and will probably meet you even if you're totally fucking goofy. For some reason if a girl is willing to speak with you on the phone she'll figure you're also worthwhile and trustworthy enough for a live meeting. All you have to do is stay on the phone and be a competent human being albeit one with a sense of humor for minutes.
Now because this part is almost always awkward, I highly suggest you have some topics of conversation to talk about. Well, go to http: Try focusing on her if you have enough information about her. Whatever you do, between 10 and 20 minutes, you'll want to ask her out.
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If she has the time to talk to you that means she is available! The Live Meeting The first meeting should be, or at least begin as, something akin to a coffee date. What you have here are two people meeting each other for the first time. So here's what you say You: You should join me. When are you leaving? Cause I have this thing I need to take care of. I have a few chores around the house I need to tackle but I don't have anything on my schedule tying me down tonight. I was just looking to get out later. Why don't I tackle my laundry, and you call me back when you know when you can get out of dodge?
For show and tell. I want to be entertained. I'm brining a statue my Grandpa left me. I'll see you then! It is by far my favorite drug. And I like cafes. But screw this cafe.